Tuesday, 25 August 2020
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The other night the RoboStaff aimed Pier 10 at a Sun-like star in Lyra and captured a series of frames using the red, green, and blue filters. This technique is designed to obtain the proper number of frames in each filter so as to balance the signal-to-noise ratio. Al Kelly is credited with this technique: http://kellysky.net/White%20Balancing%20RGB%20Filters.pdf

The idea behind it is to render the color of Sun-like stars as a shade of gray. I've been using this technique for several years and as a result I never need to do Color Calibration during post-processing. Also as a result I get images that don't look mangled. Faint nebulosity is much smoother. It doesn't look strained.

This particular G2V star is magnitude 12.3. The challenge was finding the exposure that would capture the star without saturation. I used a calculator but the procedure is very much dependent on the estimate of the seeing conditions. Worst case (to my way of thinking) is that seeing is 1 arc-second FWHM. As it turned out seeing is actually around 2.7" FWHM so my frames came out a little under-exposed. I would have liked the star to have been baked in more. I proceeded nonetheless with the analysis.

20x 7-second frames were captured in red, green, and blue. I downloaded flat files from Robo. At the time I didn't have bias frames so I used 30-second dark frames from the calibration library. (This sensor is quite unlike my Atik 314E which has a mean bias of about 230 ADU. Pier 10's sensor has a bias of about 2000 ADU.)

I utilized AstroImageJ for calibration, alignment, and stacking. I do a lot of variable star and exoplanet work so it was a familiar piece of software. I used it to perform photometry on the G2V star for each stack. I made a correction for atmospheric extinction (the red and green frames were captured at 83 degrees altitude but the blue frames were captured at 62 degrees altitude.)

From there I calculated the color balance ratios:
R: 1.39
G: 1.00
B: 1.66

This means that you need to capture 39% more red frames than green in order to balance the SNR, and 66% more blue frames.

For this sensor RoboScopes says that the balance is 1.2, 1.0, and 1.33 respectively. I don't know where those numbers come from but I suspect it comes from just looking at the sensor's QE curve. If that is the case then you still need to adjust for the affects of the filters and the black body radiation of a G2V star.

As a quick test of the validity of my color balance ratios, I created a color image of the star field using 17 reds, 12 greens, and 20 blues. The result is encouraging (see attachment). The star colors match up nicely to what C2A Planetarium software says about the B-V color indices. Next step is to capture a DSO.

Brian

P10 G2V Analysis.jpg
3 years ago
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Hi Brian

thats really very interesting stuff, it will be interesting to see how easy this makes colour calibration for you 

if you want you use Pier 10 just hold off for a couple of weeks as we are fitting a new mount when we drive to Spain :)

Steve 

Please ignore my dylexia wherever possible, just be thankful I can control my Tourettes ;)

Things to do, so little time!

Steve
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Thank you Brian for the scientific analysis you've undertaken. Unfortunately it sounds that the next step in confirming your findings may well have to wait. 

Brian I hope you don't mind me using your post to ask Steve a question. 

Steve you mention an imminent visit to Spain, and there was I reckoning on your having to wait a while. Not another mad rush through France! This trip does lead me on to ask a question. 

Apart from changing the mount on pier 10 and presumably completing the syndicate scope set ups, will there be any camera changes on any of the piers? It just occurred to me that possibly the replacement camera fitted to pier 6 on your last visit, rather an unpleasant surprise for me when I found out, may at that time be fitted to a syndicate pier and the camera on pier 6 prior to that July visit, refitted. 

Cheers, 
Ray 

Ray
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Steve and Ray,

Thanks for your interest. Two weeks of downtime isn't a problem. The Moon is now interfering. I was planning on imaging M27 but the Moon is just too darn close.

I discovered an odd problem when I plate solved those frames at nova.astrometry.net (via AstroImageJ). The given solution for Zenith Distance is just wrong. Probably a case of user error (i.e. "me"). This now affects the atmospheric extinction calculation, so I've recalculated the color balance ratios to be:

R: 1.47
G: 1.00
B: 1.77

The interesting thing is if you take the square root of those numbers you get:

R': 1.21
G': 1.00
B': 1.33

Isn't that interesting?!  Those values almost perfectly match the "Filter Weights" as shown on the Equipment Page for all piers using the KAF-16803 sensor. Again, I don't know how the Filter Weights were derived but it looks to be useful information however my recommendation is to SQUARE THE FILTER WEIGHT when calculating the number of frames to capture.

Brian
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Hi Brian, quick off topic so pardon the intrusion ?

Ray pier 6 camera swap was planned for many months before our last trip to the new 35mm ZWO. It was in the forum area as to what we were swapping but my apologies none the less. I doubt  however we will be refitting a QSI as small pixel CCD is so inefficient compared to CMOS. Its like buying as 6 speed modern car  then all of a sudden going back to a mk2 Ford escort 4 speed  (as good as the QSI683 is)

To the best of my knowledge we have no other camera swaps planned in the very near future but medium term

the camera from pier 12 will be fitted to Pier 9 and Pier 12 will get a FLI Kelpler although I am still ruminating as to which one at present  

if you need any info Ray just give me a bell tomorrow ??

Please ignore my dylexia wherever possible, just be thankful I can control my Tourettes ;)

Things to do, so little time!

Steve
Roboscopes Tea Boy


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