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Who is going to be the first to make the some initial target suggestions for the new pier setup, for us to discuss?

 


Ray
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I'm first, yay! That's unless someone posted something before I finished slowly typing this in. :(

I'm not planning on submitting anything in the near future since I've been able to collect so much over the past couple of years. I'm looking forward to all the data, some of which I can add to what I already have. You can never have enough. :)

I used Telescopius with a very restricted criteria list, so most of these are the popular choices. There's an amazing number of objects, particularly dark nebula, left for you to choose from, plus galaxies.

Using March 1st as the date for current objects, just a few :

Still or just rising:

  The region around Sadr, gamma Cygni.

  M44 Beehive cluster.

  Some more are needed I think, for example Sh2-115.

Close to reaching or passing transit :

  Rosette nebula region 

  Flaming Star and Tadpoles 

  Jellyfish 

  Monkey Head ngc2174/ngc2175

Setting :

  Witch Head

  California 

  Pleiades 

  Horsehead region and M42

Very close to setting, not recommended :

  Heart and Soul region 

 

Forward planning using April 30th :

  M8

  Veil complex 

  Ngc6820/ngc6823

  Elephant trunk region

  Flying Bat - Sh2-129

  North American, Pelican and Clamshell 

  Lion nebula 

  Bubble, Cave and Lobster Claw

 

Steve no doubt will encourage you to go way beyond April 30th regarding forward planning, I'm currently feeling 'typed out'. 

If I've anything incorrect then my apologies but I didn't want to spend too long on this rechecking. 

Important:

It's all now over to you to pick from this list and add your own. The above is merely a small selection, and you should not assume that any will automatically be submitted. If you want to image any of them you need to reply. 

Cheers, 

Ray 

 

  

  

 

 


Ray
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2 years ago
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I'm first, yay! That's unless someone posted something before I finished slowly typing this in. :(

I'm not planning on submitting anything in the near future since I've been able to collect so much over the past couple of years. I'm looking forward to all the data, some of which I can add to what I already have. You can never have enough. :)

I used Telescopius with a very restricted criteria list, so most of these are the popular choices. There's an amazing number of objects, particularly dark nebula, left for you to choose from, plus galaxies.

Using March 1st as the date for current objects, just a few :

Still or just rising:

  The region around Sadr, gamma Cygni.

  M44 Beehive cluster.

  Some more are needed I think, for example Sh2-115.

Close to reaching or passing transit :

  Rosette nebula region 

  Flaming Star and Tadpoles 

  Jellyfish 

  Monkey Head ngc2174/ngc2175

Setting :

  Witch Head

  California 

  Pleiades 

  Horsehead region and M42

Very close to setting, not recommended :

  Heart and Soul region 

 

Forward planning using April 30th :

  M8

  Veil complex 

  Ngc6820/ngc6823

  Elephant trunk region

  Flying Bat - Sh2-129

  North American, Pelican and Clamshell 

  Lion nebula 

  Bubble, Cave and Lobster Claw

 

Steve no doubt will encourage you to go way beyond April 30th regarding forward planning, I'm currently feeling 'typed out'. 

If I've anything incorrect then my apologies but I didn't want to spend too long on this rechecking. 

Important:

It's all now over to you to pick from this list and add your own. The above is merely a small selection, and you should not assume that any will automatically be submitted. If you want to image any of them you need to reply. 

Cheers, 

Ray 

 

  

  

 

 

LOL,

He very much will ask you to get all the way to  the end of July if he can,  I assure you laughing

However, what you have done is a good start Ray so thank you!


Please ignore my dylexia wherever possible, just be thankful I can control my Tourettes ;)

Things to do, so little time!

Steve
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2 years ago
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Hi Ray,

all good targets from my perspective! Also, we could diversify into clusters and consider M53 together with NGC5053 (image centered on 13 14 43 / +17 55 25), I think this could be a nice one for March as well.

Regarding Elephant trunk region / Lion nebula / Wizard nebula, I have a suggestion for debate:

I am a fan of taking panes that can be assembled into a mosaic. So, I have looked at this and here is a thought:

We could take an initial 3x3 mosaic containing the Elephant trunk region and the Lion nebula. this can then be extended East to include the Wizard nebula, as well as NGCs 1289+1333+1334+---+7281.

We can also, if we have the taste for this, expand North and West (each by 1 pane) and include Sh2-129, and a ton of other NGCs. This can be done this year, or complemented in 2023 (I know this is really forward planning). Of course, the sky is the limit, and we can take panes in the coming years that will eventually link this to the Lobster and bubble + M52 ... (more LoL for Steve here).

 

This may sound ambitious ... but could lead to an amazing panorama of this part of the sky. I will spend time in the coming days to model this and get a feel for what this would take.

What are your thoughts? 

Kind regards

Manuel


Manuel
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2 years ago
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Hi Ray,

all good targets from my perspective! Also, we could diversify into clusters and consider M53 together with NGC5053 (image centered on 13 14 43 / +17 55 25), I think this could be a nice one for March as well.

Regarding Elephant trunk region / Lion nebula / Wizard nebula, I have a suggestion for debate:

I am a fan of taking panes that can be assembled into a mosaic. So, I have looked at this and here is a thought:

We could take an initial 3x3 mosaic containing the Elephant trunk region and the Lion nebula. this can then be extended East to include the Wizard nebula, as well as NGCs 1289+1333+1334+---+7281.

We can also, if we have the taste for this, expand North and West (each by 1 pane) and include Sh2-129, and a ton of other NGCs. This can be done this year, or complemented in 2023 (I know this is really forward planning). Of course, the sky is the limit, and we can take panes in the coming years that will eventually link this to the Lobster and bubble + M52 ... (more LoL for Steve here).

 

This may sound ambitious ... but could lead to an amazing panorama of this part of the sky. I will spend time in the coming days to model this and get a feel for what this would take.

What are your thoughts? 

Kind regards

Manuel

Yippppeeeeee forward planning, I like it cool

Ps is the Squidy in with the trunk mosaic ?

Steve


Please ignore my dylexia wherever possible, just be thankful I can control my Tourettes ;)

Things to do, so little time!

Steve
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2 years ago
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Yes Steve ... yes, he Squidy is planned to be in it as well ... North-West corner.

Cheers

Manuel

 


Manuel
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Manuel, 

It's quite a while that Steve got that excited. :)

Unfortunately there's always someone ready to burst someone's bubble. :(

Steve unless you intend to at least double up Pier 14 with twin scopes, then although the squidy will be there, you'll be hard pushed to clearly see it. I'm ready to give an explanation if you want. 

Those mosaics sound really exciting Manuel and as you mentioned they could all be joined together with additional ones to join them up next year. Look forward to hearing from you Manuel with what you eventually come up with. 

Cheers, 

Ray 

 


Ray
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2 years ago
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Manuel, 

It's quite a while that Steve got that excited. :)

Unfortunately there's always someone ready to burst someone's bubble. :(

Steve unless you intend to at least double up Pier 14 with twin scopes, then although the squidy will be there, you'll be hard pushed to clearly see it. I'm ready to give an explanation if you want. 

Those mosaics sound really exciting Manuel and as you mentioned they could all be joined together with additional ones to join them up next year. Look forward to hearing from you Manuel with what you eventually come up with. 

Cheers, 

Ray 

 

Now then Ray I think I may be way ahead of you as I believe you have overlooked a critical change to the new setup :)

3nm narrowband filters...........

So my bubble is most certainly not burst it would seem smilesmile


Please ignore my dylexia wherever possible, just be thankful I can control my Tourettes ;)

Things to do, so little time!

Steve
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Steve, 

Is it even faintly possible that I'm a bit ahead of you being ahead of me. :)

Yes those filters will really help pulling the O3 data out of theHa. A lot of the images of this on Astrobin use 3nm Chroma or Astrodon filters and have integration times from about 25 hours upwards. The thing you may be overlooking is that, while it can be squeezed into a single frame without too much of a crop, being part of a mosaic will require 2 panels and double the time. Do you have a spare Tak106 and 2600 camera?

Now this where my suggestion to you just before last Christmas would have really helped. I'm banned from suggesting a certain astrophotography technique here on the forum :) , so that was sent as a suggestion to you in an email. Fifteen - Love, to me I believe.

Cheers

Ray 


Ray
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2 years ago
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Steve, 

Is it even faintly possible that I'm a bit ahead of you being ahead of me. :)

Yes those filters will really help pulling the O3 data out of theHa. A lot of the images of this on Astrobin use 3nm Chroma or Astrodon filters and have integration times from about 25 hours upwards. The thing you may be overlooking is that, while it can be squeezed into a single frame without too much of a crop, being part of a mosaic will require 2 panels and double the time. Do you have a spare Tak106 and 2600 camera?

Now this where my suggestion to you just before last Christmas would have really helped. I'm banned from suggesting a certain astrophotography technique here on the forum :) , so that was sent as a suggestion to you in an email. Fifteen - Love, to me I believe.

Cheers

Ray 

15 love LOL

Deuce more like

However this has been my point all along with forward planning, a job like that you get it in early early months before it rises, and put moon down only. The pier will then start imaging just before dawn picking up the slack over many months and do a very big project like this without it interfering with its day to day work :)

Advantage Mr Asbury


Please ignore my dylexia wherever possible, just be thankful I can control my Tourettes ;)

Things to do, so little time!

Steve
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Dear Mr Asbury (sic),

First sign of being a bit rattled when you can't remember your name. :)

You get owt for nowt in life. :) 

You've consistently reminded us of what we need to do, so I hoped that the recent thread encouraging members to take heed and ensure no time is wasted may have convinced you that there will be little if any spare time. I also need not remind you that from around the Spring equinox the dawn and sundown come closer and closer together pretty quickly.

I recommend for now that part of the mosaic containing squidy be imaged using the same times as the other panels, and leave until next year the additional integration time. So no squidy for you this year Steve.

If you agree then we'll call it a draw. :)

Cheers,

Rya 


Ray
Roboscopes Guinea Pig


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