Hi Steve et al,  The Helping Hand data was great.  Unfortunately I think it needs a bit more, as the 120 x 180sec is a little noisy. (see attached image).  It is such a cool image, and this set-up is ideal to capture it, but I think it probably needs another 6 hours at least - in dark conditions.   Given that I already have had one bite at this cherry, other targets should have priority.  But I would plan to submit another 6hours on the object, unless and of my Pier 5 subscribers can show me that I am not reducing what I have optimally! Brian